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Not trying to be rude here - but would 300-350kg sitting on the ramp like
that, be felt in the cockpit as a trim issue ?




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Self correcting.

Lotsa nose up, ramp dudes walk home, trim adjusted.

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Notice the rather BIG guy sitting in the middle.... Yeah they probably felt
it with him back there.... HA HA..
Just kidding. I took that photo last summer.

The AFCS system is pretty darn good on the CH-47, I doubt the pilots feel
anything at all, Lateral Trim is automatic (can be manual) and the Flight
Engineers /
Crew Chiefs walk around in the cabin frequently.

There are balance issues with Center of Gravity... but the ramp itself can
hold 2000 lbs.

Paul

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Once again, thanks Paul.



Just trying to be tactful - as a chubby guy myself ....



I suppose trim adjustment would have to be fairly automatic, if you're
going to offload pallets of stores or paratroops in flight (especially the
fat ones).




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Paul, thanks for posting and thanks for serving.
I watched a PBS program last night that featured a Kansas Army Guard
CH-47 unit's deployment to Pakistan and Afganistan.
Impressive!

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> | The AFCS system is pretty darn good on the CH-47, I doubt the pilots
> feel
> | anything at all, Lateral Trim is automatic (can be manual) and the
> Flight
> | Engineers /
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> fat ones).
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Here in the Dallas/Ft Worth area (southern Arlington), I grew up listening
to the "wump wump wump" as a gaggle of Chenooks would fly the southern route
from Dallas NAS to Carswell AFB. If I am not mistaken, the Chenook is
scheduled for retirement is it not? I still live in the same local and
still hear the occational "wump wump wump". I will miss that sound when the
time comes.

Chris

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>> | The AFCS system is pretty darn good on the CH-47, I doubt the pilots
>> feel
>> | anything at all, Lateral Trim is automatic (can be manual) and the
>> Flight
>> | Engineers /
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>> | There are balance issues with Center of Gravity... but the ramp itself
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>> I suppose trim adjustment would have to be fairly automatic, if you're
>> going to offload pallets of stores or paratroops in flight (especially
>> the
>> fat ones).
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> Here in the Dallas/Ft Worth area (southern Arlington), I grew up listening
> to the "wump wump wump" as a gaggle of Chenooks would fly the southern
> route from Dallas NAS to Carswell AFB. If I am not mistaken, the Chenook
> is scheduled for retirement is it not? I still live in the same local and
> still hear the occational "wump wump wump". I will miss that sound when
> the time comes.
>
> Chris
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>
Sorry Retirement is not in the cards for this big workhourse.... you will be
hearing them for a long time yet...


The D model CH-47's NOW flying are being rebuilt into F models back at the
Boeing Plant in PA...
All Currently flying D models WILL be refurbished into either a CH-47F or
MH-47G models.
By 2013 all CH-47's in the Army will be F models. They are expected to fly
until 2030...


Paul